Impartial

The previous article contained many good points, but I restructured it to sound less like an advertisement for the product and tried to make it more impartial.

Condensed it even more

I try to keep up with Wikipedia's NPOV Policies while making the article reflect on all of Bose's Headphone offerings instead of one. This article looks like it's incomplete, as I might have some pictures about the QuietComfort 2 Headphones from my own disk drive, but please feel free to adjust the neutrality of the article to whatever means possible. Thanks. — Vesther 23:33, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

New Challenge

If you guys can get the Impedance, Sensitivity, Frequency Range, etc. out of these overpriced headphone family (I already got the Tri-Port Headphones settled), then I would highly appreciate it. Be sure to cite your sources. Thanks. — Vesther 02:26, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Bass Problem Clarification

I talked to someone at a Tweeter Audio/Video store and I asked him how he felt about the Bose Tri-Port Headphones. He told me that he didn't like them because the mid and low bass levels tend to overlap the Treble levels, and that he can't hear the highs whatsoever. He was pretty much an audiophile and he recommended the Shure Earbuds over the Bose Tri-Port Headphones for reasons unknown.

Just wanted to clarify the Audiophiles' criticism about the Bass problem. — Vesther 20:52, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

No trolling in Talk Pages

I've seen two instances of trolling in this talk page, so please really watch out what you are saying on these talk pages, since I really "bite" messages that are deemed to be trolls. Trolling (messages that encourages flaming on a page) won't be tolerated, so please watch what you are saying. — Vesther 03:39, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Clean up

I cleaned up the product descriptions. I also took this criticism out:

• Material Usage. Many headphone aficionados wished Bose to use more reliable materials so that the headphones itself would feel more like a "true high-end pair of headphones."

It is lacking in specifics. What does "more reliable materials" mean? What does a "true high-end pair of headphones" mean?

I also took out references to having no criticisms. The section is supposed to describe criticisms. If there aren't any, then there is no reason for the section to be there.

I also took this out:

Addressing treble concerns also had Bose wondering about the retainment of the headphones' Bass performance, which has been a condition of releasing a product with the Bose name for many years.

Because it doesn't make sense. Does it mean that they were worried about improving the treble performance at the expense of the bass performance? If so, what did they do about it?

Jm307 04:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Unbalanced Article

I really don’t want to ruffle anyone’s feathers here but I want to point out that I do find this article completely unbalanced. This article is currently a history about the line, certain specs and any negative review found on the net. If the Negatives are going to be shown the Positives must be listed also.

As an owner of the QC2 v2 I must say they are really amazing. I might not have even bothered to listen to them thinking that they were just hyped up if I would have read this article. I also have the benefit of listing to many competitors noise reducing headphones before my purchase. Not only is the noise reduction on the QC2's the best... the speakers are just amazing, not to mention the Bass!!! These Headphones have something that none of the others had a deep bass, and I guess they fixed the treble problems mentioned on the earlier ones since the Highs are just like they should be! I hope that we can even out this article. Thanks (UKPhoenix79 07:27, 18 February 2006 (UTC))

I understand that I cast a negative opinion of Bose headphones here, but I believe your "balancing out" of this article is subjectivist. You really like the QuietComfort 2 headphones...more power to you, but if you look at Headroom (www.headphone.com), there are many headphones that will offer at least similar sound quality, if not comparable noise isolation. There are also canalphones that compete with the Bose family in the headphone regards of both SQ and noise isolation--if you look in a Best Buy nowadays, Triports are sold next to Shure's E2C and E3C. I won't point out negatives here again--I'm sure there are enough audiophiles with a vendetta for Bose for that, and I'm sure they'd love to do worse things to this page--but I really thought that I was the one making a balance.68.109.96.120 04:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Product advertisement, not encyclopedic!

Bose is a highly controversial name in audio equipment for legitimate reasons, and yet the entirety of the wiki page associated with the Bose headphone line seems to speak in blatant affirmation and praise of the lineup. Referring to the Triport drivers as below

"Beginning in 1998, with the launch of the Bose Aviation X headsets, bose introduced the company's proprietary TriPort drivers. TriPort Drivers deploy three small ports in the earcups to produce loudspeaker-quality sound in a headphone package. Each earcup starts out with small ports and an earcup design that was designed to cover the ear entirely. The Triport system generates a unique airflow in the cup producing deep lows and clear highs. The 3 ports are strategically placed on the earcup: 2 tiny and one large. All headphones released by Bose since 1998 utilize the TriPort Drivers."

displays a marketer's sincerity in singing the glory of the product, while criticisms are quickly edited away as "subjective?"

I doubt that Bose is as insidious as you believe. For some reason that I think that Bose has become an easy target without any real tangible reason. Myself I am a computer programmer and I get people dissing Microsoft (aka M$) endlessly. I personally would prefer not to use Win XP and instead use Linux. Yet all my software is for Windows so I personally use it even though I find it unstable, a bit bloated & slow. Most of the times the people who diss M$ are people who can’t even give a good reason why they don’t like it. And I don’t really like it when people diss things just because it’s what everyone else says... For some people Win XP is exactly what they need (Like my parents) and Linux would be overkill. This is the same with Bose...Some people what to sped $5,000 on an entertainment rack and $3,000 on each speaker ... Yet others would rather spend $4,000 on a home entertainment system from Bose that does have very good sound at a cheaper price. And don’t try to attack me for saying that since if you did hear it you’d agree that it sounded good, but probably not as good as the $20,000 system, and frankly it shouldn’t sound better... I mean you’re spending 4 times the price I would hope it would sound 4 times better.

The "QuietComfort 2 Second Edition" part is not marketing but is trying to put any criticisms they have in a NPOV way.... An encyclopedia is about FACTS and the facts about each headphone are clearly listed and we all try to remove the marketing info that EVERY company includes with the info on their products. Opinions are not facts... yet it is a fact that Bose has been criticized about their products, but the criticisms aren't always consistent and many are contradictory. So we try to list the ones that don’t contradict each other in as NPOV as possible. After all everyone's hearing is subjective and the two people can hear the same thing and one person will say it has too much bass and the other will say it doesn't have enough

As for what you said about the headphones I do believe that you’re comparing apples to oranges. Bose does go with the general public when they create anything and do tend to avoid the limited market (money wise) in hi-end audiophile systems. The headphones are designed for travelers and regular home users... after all that’s the majority of the people/market out there so you cant try to compare the $299 outer-ear QC2’s to the $900 in-ear Ultimate Ears. It’s a completely different market and end user. I have had this convo before here is the link to it. Please remember that you are talking to a person that has compared other company’s products and for what my needs were I found what I was looking for... From what you say I doubt that you have heard anything from Bose and are just following the crowd. That is not meant as a diss in any way, but as an advice to listen and for yourself. Go to your local Bose store, bring your own stuff to listen to and be willing to hear what they have.

From what I have experienced Bose has always gone out of their way to help customers with any problems that they have and are always helpful in answering any questions... How do you think I managed to find so much info about the original Aviation Headsets? They were on the phone with me for about an hour answering questions about something they haven’t even made in over 8 years. Heck I even had one person transfer me to the head of their department since he was the only one that knew about the system since he was there when they originally sold them... I must say that that is commitment to the customer and I really respect that. --UKPhoenix79 06:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

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